November 18, 2002

From amoroso@mclink.it Thu Oct 2 08:31:01 2003 From: amoroso@mclink.it (Paolo Amoroso) Date: Thu Oct 2 07:31:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Explorer's window system: is it presentation-based? Message-ID: <87r81vrgzz.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it> Is Explorer's window system presentation-based like Symbolics' Dynamic Windows? Paolo -- Paolo Amoroso From moore@bricoworks.com Thu Oct 2 09:42:01 2003 From: moore@bricoworks.com (Tim Moore) Date: Thu Oct 2 08:42:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Explorer's window system: is it presentation-based? In-Reply-To: <87r81vrgzz.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it> Message-ID: <2C63B312-F4F7-11D7-9876-000393A9C1FC@bricoworks.com> On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Paolo Amoroso wrote: > Is Explorer's window system presentation-based like Symbolics' Dynamic > Windows? > > No. It and Genera 6 support mouse-ability for a lot of things, but I believe it was done in an ad-hoc manner. Tim From Rachel Evans Fri Oct 3 14:07:00 2003 From: Rachel Evans (Rachel Evans) Date: Fri Oct 3 13:07:00 2003 Subject: [LMH]RE: Double Your Website Traffic - with ExtraHit! Message-ID: <3153CR1000017707@s2h6a0w3.trafficglue.com> --1925129783.1065214624703.JavaMail.SYSTEM.emaserver2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Double Your Website Traffic ExtraHit is a free way to market your website and it works! Our revolutionary pop-under technology help drives unlimited=20 traffic to your website and increases your page views. Click at http://www.extrahit.com/cgi-bin/ref.cgi?r=3Dam3sm0de6pv21 to join us now, it's free! Copyright=C2=A9 2003 ExtraHit.com. All Rights Reserved. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Not interested in using our product? To be taken off our mailing list, please follow the instructions below http://s2h6a0w3.trafficglue.com/mnkr/www/r?1000017707.3153.1.iWFtWnaog1yh+s --1925129783.1065214624703.JavaMail.SYSTEM.emaserver2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable November 18, 2002 =09 =09

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--1925129783.1065214624703.JavaMail.SYSTEM.emaserver2-- From aek@spies.com Sat Oct 4 08:30:01 2003 From: aek@spies.com (Al Kossow) Date: Sat Oct 4 07:30:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Zeta-C released into the Public Domain Message-ID: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> Scott Burson has just released his C to Lisp translation system into the Public Domain. I've placed a copy of the sources in www.spies.com/aek/explorer/zeta-c for now until a permanent home can be found. d From cshapiro@panix.com Sat Oct 4 08:46:01 2003 From: cshapiro@panix.com (Carl Shapiro) Date: Sat Oct 4 07:46:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Zeta-C released into the Public Domain In-Reply-To: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> (message from Al Kossow on Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:30:21 -0700) References: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> Message-ID: <200310041545.h94Fjfe08606@panix3.panix.com> From: Al Kossow Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:30:21 -0700 Scott Burson has just released his C to Lisp translation system into the Public Domain. Very, very, very cool! Was this anounced anywhere? From gyro@zeta-soft.com Sat Oct 4 22:59:00 2003 From: gyro@zeta-soft.com (Scott L. Burson) Date: Sat Oct 4 21:59:00 2003 Subject: [LMH]Zeta-C released into the Public Domain In-Reply-To: <200310041545.h94Fjfe08606@panix3.panix.com> References: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> <200310041545.h94Fjfe08606@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: <16255.45002.45694.555837@kali.zeta-soft.com> From: Carl Shapiro Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Al Kossow Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 08:30:21 -0700 Scott Burson has just released his C to Lisp translation system into the Public Domain. Very, very, very cool! Was this anounced anywhere? Nope. You are the first to know :-) Zeta-C is a C implementation for Lisp Machines that works by translating C into Lisp. (Boy it feels odd to be using the present tense talking about such an old thing!) It uses constructs specific to Lisp Machine Lisp, so its output is not Common Lisp and is not, in general, easily converted to Common Lisp, though such conversions have been done on rare occasions. It should be possible to build it from sources on an Explorer, Lambda, or 36xx. It was never ported to the Ivory, though such a port would not be difficult. -- Scott From cshapiro@panix.com Sun Oct 5 00:25:01 2003 From: cshapiro@panix.com (Carl Shapiro) Date: Sat Oct 4 23:25:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Zeta-C released into the Public Domain In-Reply-To: <16255.45002.45694.555837@kali.zeta-soft.com> (gyro@zeta-soft.com) References: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> <200310041545.h94Fjfe08606@panix3.panix.com> <16255.45002.45694.555837@kali.zeta-soft.com> Message-ID: <200310050724.h957OEB05325@panix3.panix.com> From: "Scott L. Burson" Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 22:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Hi Scott, Thanks for placing the sources to Zeta-C in the public domain! Until now never had the chance to use Zeta-C; I was only fortunate enough to have colleagues who were able to recall how nifty a system it was. I am quite excited about the possibility of using Zeta-C on a project of my own, at last! It should be possible to build it from sources on an Explorer, Lambda, or 36xx. It was never ported to the Ivory, though such a port would not be difficult. I have Zeta-C mostly loaded on one of my LispM, an Ivory (I reached a convenient stopping point today when I realized I did not have enough of the system sources loaded to M-. down to an array creation primitive which differs between the L and I-machines). Also, while loading the various system definitions, I noticed that references are made to files which are not present in the distribution: ZETA-C:SOURCES;ZCRUN.LISP ZETA-C:SOURCES;ZCZWEI-SYM.LISP ZETA-C:SOURCES;ZCZWEI-LMITI.LISP The file ZETA-C:SOURCES;ZCZWEI.LISP claims to contain a C-mode for the LMI, MIT, TI and LispM. Are the contents of this file identical to those of the missing ZETA-C;SOURCES;ZCZWEI-LMITI.LISP module? Thanks again, Carl From james@unlambda.com Fri Oct 10 07:35:03 2003 From: james@unlambda.com (James A. Crippen) Date: Fri Oct 10 06:35:03 2003 Subject: [LMH]Still alive Message-ID: Hi all, just a quick note to say that I'm still alive. I'm heads down right now for school because I've got a midterm coming up that covers *half a book* worth of Cultural Anthropology and the test is written with closed book. Whee. And I'm trying to absorb Japanese as fast and as much as I possibly can given that I'm not actually living in Japan. So I've been away from terminal for a while. I have been getting straight As though, which makes me happy. On the gripping hand I'm going to be in a Japanese noh-style play with other members of the UAA Japanese club. It'll be fun to dress up in kimono and hakama and play a drum erratically. Doing crap for the club like helping with the play, fundraising (making obento for sale on campus), and the like is also putting a dent in my hacking time. Whine whine. I promise to get back to hacking after the midterm is over. Veronica (the wife) just got a brand spanking new Mac G5 with ultra-awesome Studio Display. The machine is *amazingly* quiet for having like ten fans in it or something. Naturally this is an excuse for me to try to get OpenMCL running. And to try to build a Cocoa app in Lisp. Which is such a potential cycle-sucker that I'm going to force myself not to do it otherwise the fscking server upgrade will never get done here. Anyhow, I'm still alive. Nights are getting much longer here and as winter sets in I'll be much more willing to spend time indoors hacking instead of outside freezing my appendages off. (Oh, the University network is like three hops from unlambda.com which makes for great telnet access from school. So I'll have fun at school with my laptop. Need to find out if CVS is passed by the firewall though.) Happy Hacking, 'james -- James A. Crippen Lambda Unlimited 61.2204N, -149.8964W Recursion 'R' Us Anchorage, Alaska, USA, Earth Y = \f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx)) From dnm@pobox.com Mon Oct 20 14:55:02 2003 From: dnm@pobox.com (Dan Moniz) Date: Mon Oct 20 13:55:02 2003 Subject: [LMH]Zeta-C released into the Public Domain In-Reply-To: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> References: <200310041530.h94FULbB020363@spies.com> Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20031020145318.0518ec40@pobox.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 08:30 AM 10/4/2003, Al Kossow wrote: >Scott Burson has just released his C to Lisp translation system into the >Public Domain. I've placed a copy of the sources in >www.spies.com/aek/explorer/zeta-c for now until a permanent home can >be found. This link is dead for me. Did it change? - -- Dan Moniz [http://www.pobox.com/~dnm/] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 Comment: Please see iQA/AwUBP5RZcFmE1hyKYjtREQKL9wCeKHsXw1YyXSCUArtMRp9gRUyEkw0AoN5s S32/JpJUWR3r1H0mCTXJ4LWN =zqsk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From amoroso@mclink.it Thu Oct 2 08:31:01 2003 From: amoroso@mclink.it (Paolo Amoroso) Date: Thu Oct 2 07:31:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Explorer's window system: is it presentation-based? Message-ID: <87r81vrgzz.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it> Is Explorer's window system presentation-based like Symbolics' Dynamic Windows? Paolo -- Paolo Amoroso From moore@bricoworks.com Thu Oct 2 09:42:01 2003 From: moore@bricoworks.com (Tim Moore) Date: Thu Oct 2 08:42:01 2003 Subject: [LMH]Explorer's window system: is it presentation-based? In-Reply-To: <87r81vrgzz.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it> Message-ID: <2C63B312-F4F7-11D7-9876-000393A9C1FC@bricoworks.com> On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 01:55 PM, Paolo Amoroso wrote: > Is Explorer's window system presentation-based like Symbolics' Dynamic > Windows? > > No. It and Genera 6 support mouse-ability for a lot of things, but I believe it was done in an ad-hoc manner. Tim From Rachel Evans Fri Oct 3 14:07:00 2003 From: Rachel Evans (Rachel Evans) Date: Fri Oct 3 13:07:00 2003 Subject: [LMH]RE: Double Your Website Traffic - with ExtraHit! Message-ID: <3153CR1000017707@s2h6a0w3.trafficglue.com> --1925129783.1065214624703.JavaMail.SYSTEM.emaserver2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Double Your Website Traffic ExtraHit is a free way to market your website and it works! Our revolutionary pop-under technology help drives unlimited=20 traffic to your website and increases your page views. 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