Completely off topic, but are you (Mr. DiGriz) by any chance related to the Stainless Steel Rat? ;^) 'james -- James A. Crippen <james@unlambda.com> ,-./-. Anchorage, Alaska, Lambda Unlimited: Recursion 'R' Us | |/ | USA, 61.20939N, -149.767W Y = \f.(\x.f(xx)) (\x.f(xx)) | |\ | Earth, Sol System, Y(F) = F(Y(F)) \_,-_/ Milky Way.